And then after 25 years you will kick yourself every single time you step through your door. Does this look 80s? I haven't taken photos yet as the house is still under construction and the floors still don't have their final coat. A few thousand dollars extra at the end of a build is nothing to sneeze at. How do I know if my oak floors are white or red oak ?Sorry if it’s a silly question.Mine are from the late 60’s They have oranges a lot over the years. Replace your hot-weather woes with a cool feel for toes when you treat your floors to deliciously refreshing tile, Don't be daunted. Get a sample to the contractor and then get them to send BACK a sample of their own creation! Stain it the same as the floors and treads, and carpet to hardwood reducer strips between rooms. This is super helpful. Cocotini Hartman, your floors are perfection! Thanks for the tip. Can't wait to see them! The grey combats the yellow tannin pull from white oak. They are beautiful the way they are. If you stain them, the difference does decrease so if you definitely want a stain, it may be more economical to choose red oak over white. :) We have a professional lined up, I'm just looking for real examples of stains on white oak as they are harder to find online than I thought. Natural, special walnut, white, driftwood, grey, graphite a mixture of 50%white + 50% grey and Nordic seal (which gave the red oak a pink hue). Likely they kept the names the same for consistency? I don’t care for the orange colour it has now. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. So just be aware that without bleaching, a very light gray floor may not be possible. they also recommend 2 coats bona mega ONE with one coat of bona traffic HD. not sure if we should leave them, do the second stain over top, or pay to refinish once again! What would your choice be for this look? He then did I dark walnut, 1 white, 1 grey 1 weathered oak (middle left) which looks great in my light, however, I just am afraid after 2 coats and the poly, it will change! Thank you so much for sharing! Stain everything or go natural. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. How much training does your refinisher have in this technique? But a natural finish should be easy to obtain too. Thank you Cocotini!! I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. Never, ever, ever pick floor stain WITHOUT the coat of finish over top. Can you please share pics of white oak stained with classic colors of Bona stain. The pictures are so hard to tell/see! Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. 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Your HIGH-END flooring professional (who is NWFA trained/certified as a Sand and Refinisher) will be able to offer many options. our first attempt, sample was tested on new floor laid in kitchen vs old original floor in the rest of the house - once done everywhere, it was so light the oxidation from nail heads was so bad all you could see was the lines. Cocotini Hartman your floors are so beautiful!!! :). Example: Rubio MonoCoat is a finicky product that requires days of training (some say a week or two is better) before the refinisher is allowed near a client's floor. Whereas Mega states "rich colour" (aka ambering). so so sad to consider resending these 70 year old floors a third time in 2 weeks for fear they still wonât get it right and that we will damage them permanently. To be clear: White Oak being turned "gray"/"greige" is one of the HARDEST finishes we have in the wood flooring industry. Please check with everyone (your refinisher needs to let you know that they have some SERIOUS training behind them - especially in this technique) to see what went wrong. Definitely want a stain as I don't like the white oak color. I plan on using a Water-Based Satin Finish... now its just getting the right formula. There are much higher quality stains out there. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Remember: these floors will be with you, staring you in the face (no pun intended), for the next 25 years. But the best thing would be to approve the colour while you are standing in the home. Any advice? The longer it sits without being neutralized would make it lighter also. Please share lots of pics. Which applicator to apply? would that have an effect? I'm curious if there would be any concerns about using mineral spirits, though. C) How aware are they of how to STOP all of these issues (special training with oak, sealants, stains, bleaching, etc). Cocotini, Which finish did you end up doing, the White/Classic Grey/Weathered Oak OR the Country White/Mineral Spirits? Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? It does look like Bona does have stains and they are called the same things as Minwax. Red could pop through a bit, as could more grays and more … https://www.bona.com/Global/Countries/United%20States/Brochures/DriFast%20Color%20Samples.pdf, Looking at the Bona website you posted their stains are shown on red oak so they will look very different on your white oak. DriFast Stain's advanced technology, quick-drying formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. Because they won't know the FORMULA! Sadly, we decided we couldn't justify the cost of a full floor re-finish since the rest of our renovations were already so far over budget, ha! No floor is complete unless its bona complete. White Oak exhibits a rosy tone when it's pickled. Find a stain that works for you (on a scrap of white oak) and mail it to them...then have them SEND YOU BACK their own VERSION of the colour you just sent them. Mega is a single component 'budget friendly' product. I am trying to achieve this look. Those people who want gray/white floors get REALLY upset when the oil based finish turns the floor YELLOW. Apply a thin first … Etc. Do you have a moment between unpacking to show us the pics of the floor? DriFast Stain's advanced technology, quick-drying formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. Red and white oak today are beautiful, versatile and relatively inexpensive, If you're up to your ears in paint chips but no further to pinning down a hue, our new 3-part series is for you, Real homeowners get real help in choosing paint palettes. IF you want SUPER TOUGH then go with 3 coats Bona Traffic HD (you will need to pay an extra $1/sf for all 3 coats to be Traffic HD). The light in the house is also going to determine how the colors look. White Oak is different from Red Oak. Laundry bleach and oxalic acid (bleach) does not make the wood lighter compare to a two-part bleach. You could lose all the tones by using the wrong finish (oil based finishes turn ORANGE). They need to be refinished badly. I'm thinking Provincial or special walnut, or something else. Stains bona s new drifast stain collections offer the latest choices for hardwood floor inspiration in your home. Etc. Do you plan on having a "closed door" to the basement stairs? This makes a light floor. Also would love any updates from those on this post who were working on this look! Red oak also has a more character than white oak which means it can conceal imperfections better over time. they are offering to do another stain to darken on top. Please make sure you understand the risks the TWO coats of stain can create and what is meant by adhesion failure (peels like a sunburn). My white oak floors are turning out lovely-perfect light greige color. Yes, also wondering what you ended up with! We close on the house on Tuesday so are just wrapping up the last touches. What are these striated lines in my new floor? It does look great! Find out how to keep them that way, We give you the details on cost, installation, wood varieties and more to help you pick the right hardwood flooring, Sleek and glossy or softened by wear, white floors charm, Know how to apply nail polish? You gave me an idea...actually as silly as it sounds, I might even mail them a piece of wood with the exact color stain we want. Early American was one of the top 5! It doesn't take much. As far as I can tell, they do not mention stains as part of their line-up. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Help! The smaller squares are more diluted white/grey mixtures and a minwax grey stain. I'm back to chime in! I think the present color would go well with a Scandinavian vibe. Cocotini Hartman I want to try your floor formula. Compatible with all Bona waterborne systems and all other Bona finish systems. the railing is because he has to strip it and sand before applying the new stain anyway which is a lot of work. @SJ McCarthy hoping you might have time to help! I just should have done it." Keep in mind that flooring is the one surface that ALWAYS has something touching it and it is the ONE thing in a home you can NEVER escape. Can you please share pics of white oak stained with classic colors of Bona stain. I learned SO much about every aspect of our full reno. And it will be a huge expense for you with not much pay-off. Stain??? Wow, people want pale wood or grey tones all the time. Wenge and other dark stained rift cut oak, etc. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? I would love to hear how this turns out. hardwood floors and want to have a rich looking floor. After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. Oak has MANY different variants and each one has it's own colour range. Here are some of my samples. That looks to be the difference between the two process. And you will swear and curse yourself saying "stupid budget"! We're installing white oak floors right now and I'm trying to pick the perfect Bona stain. Congratulations on your new home! Hereâs how to showcase your bathroom so it looks its best, Spend less time patching up partnerships and more time spackling and sanding with this insight from a Houzz remodeling survey, Pick-a-Paint Help: How to Create a Whole-House Color Palette, Pick-a-Paint Help: How to Quit Procrastinating on Color Choice. Our floor guys dissuaded me from playing with the country white but I was wondering if it could help us get to the right look. There are many people who are "closed door" people. Ah, I see. The Traffic HD is your commercial grade stuff with a stiffer price tag....but with SOOOOO much more to offer. Are you sure there is not something already on it to make it look this white...maybe a wash? I'd love to see photos if you happen to have any handy! Thank you so so much! 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And get photos of BOTH in the space! Have you sanded any of it yet to see what happens to the color? never thought this would be so hard! yes, they did the coat of mega one on the test, itâs more that the stain colors came out completely different. Thank you for following up with photos as well. We have white oak (super light!!!) Does your media console need to be longer width than size of tv on wal. This is my Oak flooring. Bona Stains and Finishes work in perfect tandem to seal in the natural It looks soooooo good on white oak especially! I highly recommend using "the mail" if you must do it. How did it go? Hmmmm. That's a nice way of saying it adds a snick of yellow tone. I have googled but it's hard to know if what I am seeing is really a certain stain on white oak. Maybe I'm wrong though? Minwax seems to be most common. I recommend asking them to move to the Traffic HD (and offer to pay the difference for the upgrade) to stay away from the ambering. And as a visitor to a home with these types of floors, they would make me believe that someone didn't know what they were doing/something went wrong/someone made a big mistake. You mentioned that some of the samples were pulling a bit 'pink'. They need to be refinished badly. We LOVE the color... it's dark enough but light enough to not show stains. So tired of it!!! The more applied the lighter the surface, resulting in a lighter shade stain color. This is the color of our floor. We want a classic, timeless stain that will go with a lot of looks. You made my stain decision much easier now! MANY THANKS in advance!! Hopefully we can make it nice a light shade. My first choice would probably be to try the Coffee/Country White mix. Jan 15, 2018 - 1078 sqft NEW 2 &1/4" red oak install, sand, custom stain (4 part Bona grey plus 1 part Bona graphite) and finished with 3 coats. Many of these guys/gals are well versed on turning a floor "brown" or "mahogany" but these special fashion colours will cause them so much trouble (because they are not trained) that they could go bankrupt because of it. I had in my mind much less golden. That does sound like perfection, Cocotini!! In this video, I experiment with several different stains on White Oak wood. Water based finishes also require EXTRA training (again - another week or two away at a training school paid for by the worker). Cocotini Hartman what brand stain did you use? You can send a sample with 4 different stains mixed (to produce the perfect colour) with a note that says "This one". Thank you so much! Please keep us updated. Relying on photos and other people's opinions is a really good way of achieving a floor colour you HATE. Are these duraseal stains? They have Traffic Naturale, Traffic and Traffic HD all with different sheens. What brand is the Country White stain? You might want to re-consider. I used a 2:1 Weathered Oak and Country White. We just replaced all of the white oak hardwoods in our home due to water damage. I'm hoping to achieve a similar look! For my white oak floor, I chose a water-based sealer that has good sealing properties to lock in the tannins. The amount of two-part bleach applied would make a difference. There's a couple things you can do. (under the chair leg is Bona Graphite for those wondering) But we loved the darker grains and the variations of color. what did you decide for yours? Another idea would be to bleach the floor before staining but that will give you a much lighter and more uniform tone that looks somewhat artificial. Our floor person said that people often regret going too dark, so we are happy with this decision. The grey combats the yellow tannin pull from white oak. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Use 1/2 Country white, 1/4 classic grey, 1/4 weathered oak. The other thing that SHOULD have happened prior to the FULL finish: colour patches with a single coat of finish should have been applied to your floor and left alone for a day or two for you to assess the changes. I find it highly questionable that a professional would use low quality stain underneath a high quality finish. Bona DriFast Quick Dry Stain (golden oak) is an oil-modified stain that dries and is recoatable in two hours. It is possible you have TWO issues here and not just one. The top one is the white stain straight from the can. Your floor looks BEAUTIFUL and I like that it's not too shiny! The colours you are talking about (Provencial and Special Walnut) are Minwax stains. I like how the ebony brought out the grain though. I'm not one of them. Takes 5 minutes (but the refinisher has to wait until the stain dries before applying and that takes a BIT more time). Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? Looks like Zar is oil based, though? Even with this approach, you run the risk of the flooring being the "wrong colour" in certain lighting conditions. Twig on White Oak Birch on White Oak Sand Dune on wire brushed Red Oak. They work with my contractor, so as of now, I am committed to them. :) I think I'm going to order some white oak pieces and get some samples made. Top quality finishes come out of Bona. It’s happening next week !! When it comes to floor refinishing, you REALLY need to be IN THE SPACE, CHOOSING the colours INSITU. We've never owned hardwood, so we're just happy and thankful to have it in our first house! You are, after all, creating a home that nurtures your family. One of their new colors, Pebble. Just another cautionary measure...make two samples keep one send one.. right now they are covered with plastic as the painters are in there. Why? Because I have dark cabinets in my kitchen, I chose to have a clear coat of "stain" on my white oak floors before they applied polyurethane. Red oak has a pinkish tint whereas white oak is a bit browner and more yellow. Coffee Brown mixed with Country White will result in a gray tone. I think the way the posts work on houzz makes it so that the keywords pull up when people are searching for something similar, so I'd only get the white wash crowd if I had that in the title. Turn your inspired floor ideas into reality with a Bona Certified … Important upgrade to us. Or simply 1/2 weathered oak and 1/2 classic gray. That's a good indicator that you have red oak that you are working with. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. Finding just the right stain for your hardwood floors is more than picking a pretty colour. Going cheap on the finish (stain included) rarely works out. I share with you that I want to go light in my area while most are still going dark. Dries faster than other brands (2 hours vs. 6 hours) 26 base colors that can be blended for an endless color palette; Low odor; Easy clean up and touch up; Can be buffed on … You would view the colour patches in 4 different lighting situations: 4) Full dark with the artificial lights ON (you need the lighting that you will LIVE WITH in place before this is done). Find just the right shade or custom mix to provide a unique offering to your customers. I'll get some photos as soon as they finish up. Then you can give your wooden floors a brand-new look, After more than 30 years, the Kloesels revamped their space to reflect their rural country town and Victorian-style home, Stained glass, red oak floors and other traditional details give a newly built home in Texas an antique feel that fits right in, Learn costs and other important details about renewing a hardwood floor — and the one mistake you should avoid, Dreaming of gorgeous, natural wood floors? Finished with Bona Trafflc HD That means the contractor has to source the stain themselves. Bona is the finish. Was a sealant used? When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Red oak is really tough to turn whitish/gray. When you add them, you have to let each one load completely before hitting 'submit'. We're not extremely picky luckily. back to square one, we tested a ton of samples, got a mix, completed thursday and it is so different from sample. How long to leave on the floor? However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Metropolitan: Graphite Sophisticated soul Saturated reds and smoky browns. they have finally put the final topcoat on the floors. She doesn't want a gray floor, but just a very nice light neutral color with as little red, orange, or gold as possible. If you are this far over budget perhaps natural will suite you better. - Yelp what would you do? Natural, special walnut, white, driftwood, grey, graphite a mixture of 50%white + 50% grey and Nordic seal (which gave the red oak a pink hue). Hi everyone. This makes a light floor. We used the low VOC water based BONA traffic sealer. Our stains outperform the competition and are the perfect choice to give your floors a look you’ll love! I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. The human who MIXES THE STAIN has to be the one to WRITE IT DOWN!!! Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! Even if he happens to have four legs. We want to have them sanded down just to a more natural state . I wonder how cocotini's nice blend of 1/2 country white, 1/4 weathered oak, and 1/4 classic gray would look on red oak? Depend on Bona. Stain Colors Selection A change the color and it's a great way to bring a new look to your home. (we are painting over the dark brown walls soon)... Red oak floors with Early American stain by BONA... water based sealer by BONA (traffic). May 29, 2018 - Bona Stain in Driftwood on white oak hardwood floors I shouldn't have listened. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. @SJ McCarthy thanks so much for your reply. With these strategies, building a cohesive palette for your entire home is less difficult than it seems, Forget those low-end products of old. It looks beautiful! An oil-modified stain that dries and is recoatable in two hours. Rubio also makes a product called Precolor Aqua that is used before staining to counteract the redness by introducing a green tone to counteract it.I'm doing a floor now on which I'm using their Precolor Mint White to counteract a purple tinge. Do a sample big enough to judge the end result, look at in different light types and use something to compare it to like a gray paint swatch. Another possibility is to introduce a stain with a green component in your mix, like Dura Seal Coffee Brown. It will be nice to move into our first home with some nice wood floors! Otherwise you could do it all over and still see the rosy undertone. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I love your floors! Start at maybe 1 Coffee: 20 White and go from there. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? Nov 21, 2018 - This Pin was discovered by Sandra Hungate. Thanks. Thanks for all the help. We have white oak (super light!!!) :). (Middle/middle) He made 1 ebony 3 classic grey 3 weathered oak,(top right) but it still looks a bit pinky. Stains. As such, I have decided to go for a medium rich brown color with gray undertones. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! Red and white oak today are beautiful, versatile and relatively inexpensive, Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. If you have few windows or little light, I'd recommend a the next level of sheen, though. How was it applied? I suggest you try to assess the level of training this refinisher has with: A) Water based finishes and stains (they are different than oil based), B) How many oak floors they have SUCCESSFULLY bleached/turned gray. they turned out just perfect for me. Wait...two coats of WHAT? I LOVE the name of that! My beachy oak light floors will just have to wait for another project! 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